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Is It Shou' Shu' ?


It's a regular occurrence for people to email me and direct me to a youtube video or something similar and say "See these guys are doing something which looks like Shou' Shu'". I always take a look and am left wondering what it is that makes them think what they see is the same. A lot of these queries come from the same individual. In most cases it's intended to discredit Shou' Shu' by showing the principles elsewhere. However sometimes it is well intended and just a student who hasn't yet grasped the ability to tell. From my own experience I find that those with under five years or so of dedicated study have this problem. Even baby blacks will occasionally have a hard time with it. It's actually a difficult subject and even those with many years of experience can look at a movement and have a hard time defining why it is not Shou' Shu' even though instinctively they know.

One thing I've learned about experts (in anything) is that they can at first make a snap judgment on the subject at hand and then figure out the inner workings of their mind to figure out where that judgment came from. The famous case of the Getty Museum Kouros Is a great example. They Getty museum was about to spend millions on the kouros. It had passed the tests of the scientists proving it's validity. Yet when a few historical experts were brought in within two seconds they said it was a fake. They were able to later figure out why they had their instantaneous judgment.

So I'm sent to these videos and I can instantly look and say no that is not Shou' Shu'. The practitioners may be very skilled at what they are doing and very skilled martial artists but what they are doing is not Shou' Shu'.

So after so many times of looking at these I keep coming up with the why's. This isn't Shou' Shu' because. So I thought I'd create this post to start a discussion on the matter. Essentially the plan is to come up with as few rules as possible to define whether or not a particular motion or technique is Shou' Shu'.

Shouldn't be that hard. Right?

So here goes:

Shou' Shu' is a way of moving. We've heard that for years. but it doesn't really define much. Jumping up and down and flapping your arms is a way of moving.

Rules:

1)It must have flowing focused chi.

When we say this I think we assume we mean completely focused and flowing chi. Meaning if just part of the energy is flowing and focused then it doesn't count. So maybe the rule should read the All of the chi that the body can produce should be flowing and completely focused.

You can see many cases of Chi being flowing but not focused by watching the various forms of Wushu. You can see chi being focused but not flowing in some forms of Karate. So I think this is an easy one and should stick at #1. It will cover the majority of the cases.

Opinions?

2)The motion should serve to take the opponents centerline or to keep the opponents centerline in our control.

I'm pretty certain this rule is necessary. There are cases when rule #1 can be valid yet the motion improper to Shou' shu' principle. A parry thrown to hard or in the wrong direction can right the opponent rather than take centerline. Many of the kempo videos may have what might be considered flowing focused chi (It's a stretch but it's almost there)even if only in the bear.

3) The motion must block the opponents possible weapons. (Protect the centerline)the

Of course we've heard Da' Shifu say this many times "Don't block punches, block possibilities". However I think it might be a necessary rule. I've seen a few cases usually in the art of San Soo where an argument could be made for #1 and #2 yet the weapons are huge swinging motions which leave the practitioner wide open. They are nothing like the tight circled Shou' Shu' motion. So it's my argument that #3 is a valid rule.

In the scientific process a rule is considered valid until proven otherwise. So rule #1 was obvious but didn't cover all cases. #1 and #2 together were necessary. But then #3 seems necessary also to cover the big open weapons such as big swinging hammerfist series, spinning backnuckles, and roundhouse kicks.

I'd love to hear some argument for or against my three rules. Is there something that is not covered. Can it be said in a better and simpler way.

I'd love to hear it. Please post your opinions below.

SSW

Well said Shun Shifu, If I may add to your explanations a little with the things that I see or don't see. 1 Flowing Focused Chi
When i see Wushu forms many times i notice the energy being sent in 2 different directions. Their movements are smooth but the focused energy is not there. I guess if some one was to watch a video, look at how the body moves with the intended strike into the target. Many times i see the body moving away from supporting the strike, or the bodies energy moving in a different direction than the strike.
In Karate I see things a little different. Karate seems to have the energy focused to a spot, but stops at that spot and needs to be regenerated to keep moving. For example many times you will see Karate forms that appear to stop and start stop and start. The strikes in the forms however appear very powerful.
Where I'm at in Shou Shu right now I see, and when I practice feel, the flowing movement of energy not only to the intended spot or target but through it or bouncing off of it to move the practitioner to the next course of movement. The body supports the energy in such away that adds to the flow and focus. Sometimes the feeling is like the chi is the driver and the body is the passenger along for the ride.
Point 2
I think point 2 is very simple, to take the opponents center, or balance and do not give it back to them. I believe that this is a basic fundamental to an effective martial art. A person has a tough time doing anything else when trying to regain their balance. Including defending themselves. (However, I continue to be impressed by the glimpses of mongoose that I've seen)

Point 3
I also believe Blocking the possibilities also to be fundamental. I don't know how many times I've heard " WRISTS AT EYE LEVEL", but I have seen several pro fighters get knocked out because their block was not high enough to cover the possibilities. Keeping this in mind, watch some Karate forms and look at how high the blocks are.

I believe Shou Shu covers many fundamental basics that many martial arts have lost over the years. Lost either to rules or for political reasons but that is a whole other topic for a blog. I hope this helps Mr Miller

Very well said Mr. Miller.

I'm glad you clarified that. I was a little too lazy to go into detail.

But, anyone out there. Are the three rules enough to qualify Shou' shu' or no shou' shu'

We could go on for days, weeks, and years talking about the various principles. But can we make a simple acid test. Can anyone find an instance where the rules would fail?

SSW

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